Celebrating the First 25 years of Genetic Genealogy

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Free eBook: Genetic Genealogy: The First 25 Years – 82 pages – the reflections of 34 Contributors – compiled and edited by Diahan Southard. This is a fascinating read from cover to cover. And it’s free to download here: https://diy.yourdnaguide.com/so-far

I am honored and humbled to be included in this project. And a grateful hat-tip to Diahan who conceived this project; herded the cats to gather the various perspectives; curated and edited the inputs and got it ready before RootsTech 2024. And made it free to everyone!

Thanks, Diahan Southard.

[99C] Segment-ology: Celebrating the First 25 years of Genetic Genealogy by Jim Bartlett 20240229

ThruLines Is Quick – Really Quick!!

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A Segment-ology TIDBIT

My previous post noted that ThruLines quickly adapted when I changed my Tree.

Setup: I have looked at every one of my ThruLines Matches. If you are not sure, just open your DNA Matches list and select the Filters: Unviewed AND Common Ancestors. If you’ve looked at them all (and hopefully added appropriate information in the Notes box for each one), after a minute or two you’ll get a message: No matches match the selected filter. You’re now ready to take advantage of this status.  

I have a pesky female Ancestor. I’m not really positive where she fits in a larger part of my Tree (or to any of several floating branches).  So I called up her profile; clicked on Edit (top right); clicked on Edit relationships; and clicked on the parent “X”s (to separate, not delete, them). I now went to the Father box and clicked on Add father; and typed in a name I wanted to test as a parent. I then closed the Edit relationships page and went back to my DNA Matches List and filtered on Unviewed AND Common Ancestors…. and ThruLines immediately populated appropriate new Matches who would be cousins through that parent. In the one to two minutes it takes ThruLines to search my 93,000 Matches, it found and listed Matches with ThruLines. Since I had already opened all previously known ThruLines, this new listing was only Matches who were related through the change I had just made. I quickly took notes and reset the original pesky Ancestor. Ready for the next trial. In and out very quickly.

There is more to this story for a later blogpost. The point for this blogpost is twofold:

1. AncestryDNA must already have most of these relationships already worked out, just waiting for me to ask the right question (do you have cousins for “this” relationship?)

2. There is no waiting days for a “refresh” – ThruLines reports as fast as it can scan my Match list (down to 6cM). Just WOW!

Both of these are pretty amazing, IMO.

[22CH] Segment-ology: Thru-Lines is Quick – Really Quick!! TIDBIT by Jim Bartlett 20240228

ThruLines is Quick!

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A Segment-ology TIDBIT

I was entering a ThruLines line of descent into my Common Ancestor Spreadsheet, when I noted an error in the Match’s Tree. The Tree and ThruLines were at 6C. When I inserted the missing generation in my Tree, the relationship changed to 6C1R. As soon as I clicked back to the Match, the ThruLines was gone!  AncestryDNA now *knows* the correct relationship, and since it was beyond 7 generations for one of us, they won’t show it.

Heads up. Copy or screen-shot before you lose the ThruLines link. I guess in a pinch, I could go back to my tree, take out the generation I added, and ”reincarnate” the ThruLines link. Sometimes you have to think like a computer…

[22CG] Segment-ology: ThruLines is Quick! TIDBIT by Jim Bartlett 20240225

AncestryDNA Side vs ThruLines Side

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As I look at ThruLines Matches under 15cM, roughly half of them have a Side (Maternal or Paternal) which is different from the Side of the Common Ancestor proposed. What’s up?

AncestryDNA has determined a “side” (Maternal or Paternal) for most of my Matches. Pretty slick! And very helpful!! For above-20cM Matches they appear to be fairly accurate. This is despite the fact that all of my Paternal and half my Maternal Ancestor were mostly from Colonial Virginia. I was expecting a lot of Matches to be “Both”, but relatively few are. The bulk of my Matches are in the Maternal and Paternal categories. And below 15cM, the Maternal or Paternal “sides” are not aligning with the “side” for many of the ThruLines Common Ancestors. Side note: it appears that Ancestry is now only reporting one ThruLines Common Ancestor per Match – they used to report two or three if they found them….

What are the possibilities?

1. The AncestryDNA “sides” may be incorrect. I’d like to think (hope?) that the science behind them is valid and that they are largely correct. Most of mine above 20cM appear to be.

2. The ThruLines may be incorrect. This is a genealogy area (not DNA). With my 50 years of genealogy research, I already know many of the descendants of my Ancestors, and I run a check (not-GPS-comprehensive) on each ThruLines reported. I used to spot about 5% with errors (some of which were easily fixed), but now there are more and more as AncestryDNA appears to have become fairly aggressive at finding Common Ancestors. It appears they have loosened up the algorithms to allow “close” name variants and “close” dates, resulting in more false results. But even with the ThruLines I review and accept the Common Ancestor from a genealogy point of view, there are roughly half which don’t agree with the “side”.

We cannot have it both ways… or can we?

When AncestryDNA determines a Maternal “side”, does that guarantee that 100% of the Match’s atDNA can only be on my Maternal side? I really think that is absurd! Particularly when you consider most of my Ancestry is from Colonial Virginia. Surely my Colonial Virginia Matches could descend from Ancestors who would be on both sides of my Ancestry. In fact, I have several of my own Ancestors who, due to distant pedigree collapse, are on both sides of my Tree.

I think it is entirely possible that the bulk of a Match’s atDNA could align with my Paternal or Maternal DNA, but that some of the Match’s segments could be from the other side. I’m scratching my head over whether or not this could occur half of the time.

3. Both Ways! My conclusion is that we can have it both ways! I have a colored Dot for cases with both “sides”, but I’ve decided not to let that, by itself, stand in the way of accepting a ThruLines Common Ancestor as valid.

I’m curious about your overall experience and observations about conflicting “sides”. You are encouraged to add your insights in the comments.

[35AA] Segment-ology: AncestryDNA Side vs ThruLines Side by Jim Bartlett 20240213

ThruLines Levity

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A Segmentology TIDBIT

Ancestry’s ThruLines is like “dumpster diving”… sometimes you have to dig through the trash to find the pearls. Sometimes there is a smorgasbord of various genealogy junk, but sometimes there is a treasure trove of good information. Pick and choose wisely…

[22CF] Segment-ology: ThruLines Levity TIDBIT by Jim Bartlett 20240211